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OMNIChthon: :)
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Weyden: been working on creating them, bear with me
Deejarvis: Hi, Fox!
OMNIChthon: LaughinFox, Greetings :)
Weyden: Hiya Fox
LaughinFox: Greeting Chthon!!
LaughinFox: Hey Wey!!! :)
OMNIChthon: We're building a critical mass };>
LaughinFox: Hi Dee!!
Deejarvis: How much mass is critical? :)
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OMNIChthon: In honor of Trinity site, where the first A-bomb was tested (on
my birthday, BTW), I declare
OMNIChthon: 3 to be the critical mass :)
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OMNIChthon: Re's, Fox!
OMNIChthon: ***Tonight's topic is DOWN-TO-EARTH SF.
LaughinFox: Sorry, lost mouse control :)
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OMNIChthon: Hiya, Morganna :)
OMNIChthon: A lot of SF these days seems to lack extraterrestrials, focussing
instead on ...
LaughinFox: {{{{{{{Morg!!!!}}}}}}}}
OMNIChthon: the problems of earthlings. Examples of this include most of the
SF movies this ...
OMNIChthon: summer, most of the TV series from last season, and the next, and
most of the ...
Deejarvis: Hi, Morganna
Morganna45: {{{{{{{{{{{{ FOX!! }}}}}}}}}}}}}
Morganna45: Hi Dee!
OMNIChthon: recently published SF that I've come across. Is there a reason
for this? Or is it ...
OMNIChthon: just a coincidence?
OMNIChthon: Or am I imagining this :) ?
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Dr of Golf: Hiya!
Weyden: Hey Dr
OMNIChthon: Dr of Golf, Hiya :)
Dr of Golf: Hi, Weyden
OMNIChthon: LTNC :)
Dr of Golf: Hi, Chthon.
Deejarvis: Doc!!!!!
LaughinFox: Hey Doc!!
Dr of Golf: GOLF, golf, golf, Chthon.
OMNIChthon: **Tonight's topic is DOWN-TO-EARTH SF.
Dr of Golf: Hiya, DJ
Dr of Golf: Hello, Fox. ;)
OMNIChthon: LOL! A good walk spoiled, eh Doc ?
OMNIChthon: };>
Deejarvis: Doc, you seem very low energy tonight.
Dr of Golf: LOL.....never spoiled.
OMNIChthon: (hink that was Twain who said it)
OMNIChthon: hink=think
Dr of Golf: True, DJ. I need a pick-me-up. Maybe some of that mushroom
tea. :)
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OMNIChthon: Mushroom ?
Weyden: Hey marr
Deejarvis: Kombucha, he means. ;)
OMNIChthon: Marrusver, Greetings! Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
LaughinFox: Marr!!!! How are you??? :)
Marrusver: Hey, Wey
OMNIChthon: Ah, that stuff!
Dr of Golf: Yeah, that Kombucha stuff. };>
Morganna45: Hi Marr!
Marrusver: Pretty good, Fox, you?
Marrusver: Hey Morganna, long time no see!
Morganna45: No kidding!!
LaughinFox: Most Excelent Marr! :)
Morganna45: I've been grounded :-(
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Marrusver: I've been away...
OMNIChthon: TotalPeace, Hiya :)
TotalPeace: HEyha
OMNIChthon: Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
OMNIChthon: We haven't quite started, though :)
LaughinFox: Hi Peace :)
TotalPeace: Well, what's the consensus>
TotalPeace: I think they are all in Alabama
OMNIChthon: LOL!
TotalPeace: What is LOL?
OMNIChthon: They go for fthe humid weather, eh?
Deejarvis: At Gulf Breeze? :D
OMNIChthon: Laughing Out Loud
LaughinFox: I think it's Fad Chthon. Aliens were real popular there for a
while now we're swinging...
LaughinFox: the other way.
Dr of Golf: DJ..... Gulf Breeze is in FL
OMNIChthon: You can find other onl-line shorthands at keyword: SHORTCUT,
Total
TotalPeace: We're all just people here aren't we>
Deejarvis: :::thwapping myself::: What's the place on the AL coast?
TotalPeace: What are shorthands?
OMNIChthon: We don't discriminate here };>
Dr of Golf: Mobile
TotalPeace: Exxon
Dr of Golf: Little tiny hands, Peace. };>
OMNIChthon: Things like LOL and GMTA and LTNC and };>, TotalPeace.
TotalPeace: Union 76
Marrusver: Texaco?
Deejarvis: LOL, I didn't mean Mobile! The resort type place.
TotalPeace: OK
Deejarvis: brb
TotalPeace: I think I understand
OMNIChthon: Certainly, most of the recent crop of TV and movie SF lacks
aliens.
TotalPeace: Hey, like what are we really talking about>?
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TotalPeace: I mean, yeah, gas stations are cool and all but,
WYSIWYG: hi
OMNIChthon: The lack of aliens in the most recent crop of SF, Total.
OMNIChthon: Hiya, WYSIWYG:
TotalPeace: Do we really believe in aliens>
OMNIChthon: Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
TotalPeace: I mean besides the golf club,
WYSIWYG: just using wysiwyg,actually vassago
OMNIChthon: That's beside the point in tonight's chat, TP.
TotalPeace: Not to me.
WYSIWYG: whatcha talking about
Weyden: I'll see ya around everyone, it's been fun
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TotalPeace: Alien Sandwedges
OMNIChthon: The fact is that they have been a longtime staple in SF, until
recently, I think.
LaughinFox: Night Sis!!
TotalPeace: Only in nightclubs,
WYSIWYG: alien sandwedges??????
TotalPeace: play golf?>
WYSIWYG: no
TotalPeace: Aliens do.
OMNIChthon: LOL, Doc!
WYSIWYG: oh,ok
TotalPeace: So Im told.
WYSIWYG: cool
TotalPeace: way cool
Deejarvis: Didn't aliens start disappearing when cyberpunk became popular?
WYSIWYG: truelly way cool
TotalPeace: trueely cruellly coollyy
OMNIChthon: It seems to me that's the case, Dee. But I wonder if it was
because of the troubles ...
Deejarvis: Or am I looking for a connection where there isn't one?
WYSIWYG: well, gotta go-pop by later
TotalPeace: Ooly cooly o so drooly
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OMNIChthon: that the country was going through - cyberpunk describes pretty
disfunctional societies.
Deejarvis: Chthon, you have a gift for understatement. :)
OMNIChthon: :)
Deejarvis: <----- not fond of cyberpunk BTW
OMNIChthon: You should at least read NEUROMANCER, though :)
OMNIChthon: Oops! The system seems to be bogging down!
Deejarvis: Sorry. I ah find Gibson rather boring. :::ducking:::
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OMNIChthon: *thwap* It's good for you, Dee!
Dr of Golf: ::::throwing pillows at DJ:::::: Boring????
Deejarvis: :::returning barrage:::
Dr of Golf: /dr of golf\ <---- shields up
OMNIChthon: The space program seems to have paralleled the slouching demise
of aliens in SF.
OMNIChthon: Maybe it's just as simple as that, that when our thoughts stray
from space, they ..
OMNIChthon: also stray from aliens.
Deejarvis: Well, the space program certainly has been on the skids. Maybe
people are/were...
Deejarvis: ...disappointed and gave up on everything space related?
Deejarvis: Including aliens?
OMNIChthon: That may be. OTOH, aliens are a great metaphor for external
influence that we have no ...
OMNIChthon: control.
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OMNIChthon: over.
OMNIChthon: Donovan V, Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
OMNIChthon: **Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
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OMNIChthon: At the moment, we're discussing the demise of the space program
as a reason for this.
Dr of Golf: Well, time for me to hit the road. Have a great night, ya'll.
Niters!!!!!!
Deejarvis: Nite, Doc!
Dr of Golf: {S ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING}
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OMNIChthon: Night, Doc!
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Deejarvis: Even space stories without aliens aren't as common as they used to
be.
ZaphodB310: Hello everybody!
OMNIChthon: Zaphod, Hiya!
Deejarvis: Hi, Zaphod!
LaughinFox: Night Doc!! :)
OMNIChthon: **Tonight's topic is DOWN-TO-EARTH SF. We are wondering where all
the aliens have ...
OMNIChthon: gone to in SF. There don't seem to be as many stories featuring
them.
ZaphodB310: Mexico; they didn't have a green card.
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Sea Wulf1: Evening!
OMNIChthon: Too true to be good, Zaphod!
LaughinFox: Hey Wulfie Babe!!!!
Deejarvis: Hi, Sea Wulf!
OMNIChthon: Hiya, Sea Wulf!
Sea Wulf1: Fox!!! How are you my dear?
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OMNIChthon: TAGEM, Welcome!
Sea Wulf1: Hey Chthon!
ZaphodB310: Chthon, interesting play on words which I will have to remember!
TAGEM: Hi!!! I'm kind of lost....
OMNIChthon: Tonight's topic is I DON'T GOT TO SHOW YOU NO STINKIN'
EXTRATERRESTRIALS.
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LaughinFox: Fine dear Wulf!
OMNIChthon: There is a lack of aliens in today's SF - why?
OMNIChthon: Hiya, Serrak :)
Deejarvis: TAGEM, lost in what way?
TAGEM: Yes....Non-Stinkin' extraterrestrails are much better...
Serrak: pray tell, what are we talking about?????????????
TAGEM: Dee...somewhere in AOL is a letter board for SCA...know where it is.
Saw it once.
ZaphodB310: I think many authors have a 'been there, done that' attitude
towards ETs.
OMNIChthon: Why is so much recent SF lacking ET's, is the topic, Serrak.
Serrak: ah
Serrak: tanx
OMNIChthon: no prob :)
Sea Wulf1: Well, Chthon, it could be that we have stretched our creative
minds on the personality of
Sea Wulf1: aliens.
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Serrak: i agree with wulf
OMNIChthon: Consider the recent flick SPECIES, in which a horrible alien
creature ...
ZaphodB310: Aliens are hard to write, too. You have to make them truly 'out
of this world' yet the....
Serrak: we need something new
ZaphodB310: ....readers have to be able to relete to them.
ZaphodB310: relete = relate
OMNIChthon: is unknowingly brewed when we implement a reply we get to the
message ...
Serrak: i dont know about that
OMNIChthon: we sent on the Voyager probe.
Serrak: why would the readers have to relate to the aliens
Serrak: anyone here every read any lovcraft?
OMNIChthon: That's more about genetic hazards, than about aliens, really.
ZaphodB310: Chthon, you're a bit mixed up. It goes, 'the recent horrible
movie Species....'
Sea Wulf1: Yes Chthon, but what I mean is..we've had evil killing aliens,
cute cuddly aliens,...
Serrak: most of his alien evil things were basically described as "that dark
thingy in the corner"
Serrak: how can you relate to that?
ZaphodB310: Serrak, maybe I should have said 'good alien stories.
Serrak: ok
OMNIChthon: That is the parallel line in horror, to be sure, Serrak.
Sea Wulf1: Generic aliens interested in meeting us, and about every other
type you can name..what else
Serrak: say, zaphod, hows the third arm today?
Sea Wulf1: is there that is new?
ZaphodB310: I know I'm not really interested unless I can understand or
relate to the alien.
OMNIChthon: OTOH, the uplift stories of David Brin are about a variety of
aliens, and he is going ...
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OMNIChthon: to publish the next installment as a trilogy to be released over
the next couple of ...
OMNIChthon: years.
ZaphodB310: Serrak, it is picking the nose of my second head.
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OMNIChthon: UnterZuber, Greetings :)
UnterZuber: hello
OMNIChthon: Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
Serrak: ever get confused about which head is controlling which arm? :>}
OMNIChthon: ***Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
LaughinFox: BRB
ZaphodB310: We argue about it all the time.
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OMNIChthon: That gripping hand gets in the way sometimes, eh, Serrak? };>
ZaphodB310: Especially in arm wrestling matches, Serrak.
Serrak: lol
ZaphodB310: "No! I won!"
OMNIChthon: LOL, Zaphod!
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Serrak: so, zaph, how do we know which head we are "talking" to
ZaphodB310: Chthon, do you know why Marque didn't make his last chat?
OMNIChthon: Ah, he's moved to Saturday nights for the duration of the summer
- he's had a job conflict.
ZaphodB310: Serrak, My heads come to an agreement over what will be typed
first.
ZaphodB310: I'm not a slow typist after all, merely just fighting over what
will be said.
Serrak: ok, so to avoid any confusion i guess we can call you both Zaphod,
ok?
OMNIChthon: I'm not sure which time slot he's in, but you can check out the
schedule for that info.
ZaphodB310: Thanks, Chthon!
OMNIChthon: Sure :)
ZaphodB310: BTW, Ii wish you would pick an easily shortened screen name! :)
Sea Wulf1: Well, you all have a good night...it's my bed time.
OMNIChthon: Night, Sea Wulf :)
ZaphodB310: Okay, maybe we should get back to ETs.
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ZaphodB310: Bye, Sea!!
OMNIChthon: You can call me Chth, Zaph };>
ZaphodB310: All four of us. :\
OMNIChthon: Hard to type on a QWERTY keyboard, ain't it?
ZaphodB310: Sounds yiddish.
OMNIChthon: Certainly lacking in vowels, it is.
Serrak: what about a small furry alien that is totally totally harmless and
doesnt bother anyone.
ZaphodB310: I think you did it on purpose...Spreading them out like that.
ZaphodB310: You mean an Ewok, Serrak? :)
OMNIChthon: Actually it's 2 greek characters - chi and theta. perfectly
acceptable in greek };>
Serrak: no, ewok's carry spears,
ZaphodB310: And what does it mean, exactly?
Serrak: ooopppss, ive just been reminded its been done
OMNIChthon: But they are pretty benign, nonetheless.
Serrak: tribbles
Serrak: now i have to come up with another idea
OMNIChthon: chthon = underground in greek.
ZaphodB310: Right, although they are rather 'trouble'some.
ZaphodB310: Zaphod = absolutely nothing in Greek.
Deejarvis: Serrak, if you're thinking of ET, he wasn't furry. :)
ZaphodB310: That's an interesting choice, Chth!
Serrak: actually i've never seen ET
OMNIChthon: A natural for me; I found out later that there are actually
aliens called Chthonians in ..
ZaphodB310: What's the last good alien book you've read?
Serrak: except maybe in "airplane 2"
OMNIChthon: somebody's SF, though I cant' remember.
OMNIChthon: LOL, Serrak!
ZaphodB310: "We are Chthonians...take us to your subway."
OMNIChthon: LOL, Zaph!
OMNIChthon: Well, the last *good* one - can't include Clarke and Lee's RAMA
series, unfortunately -
ZaphodB310: Quick, somebody come up with a one-liner! Keep him laughing!
Serrak: has anyone here read any of the Harry Turdledove "World War" series?
Serrak: sorry Turtledove
ZaphodB310: I'm with you on Rama, Chthon..they keep churning them out, too.
:(
OMNIChthon: would probably be Niven's RINGWORLD and NIven and Pournelle's THE
MOTE IN GOD'S EYE.
ZaphodB310: I was going to say Mote.
Deejarvis: Not me, Serrak. Sorry.
OMNIChthon: <grin>, Zaph.
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ZaphodB310: Frank!
OMNIChthon: No, I haven't, Serrak.
Deejarvis: Hi again, Frank!
Serrak: my wife tells me they have reptilian aliens running free in them
OMNIChthon: Hiya, Frank :)
BCS Frank: Chthon, Deej, Zaphod, Serrak, Hiya! :)
OMNIChthon: Tonight's topic is I DON'T GOT TO SHOW YOU NO STINKIN'
EXTRATERRESTRIALS.
Serrak: I think the last good alien book that I've read is "Footfall", by
Niven and Pournelle
BCS Frank: You mean, like lawyers are alien enough?
OMNIChthon: We are chatting about the lack of interesting ETs in the latest
batch of SF, in print and ..
OMNIChthon: in video.
Serrak: hi frank
Deejarvis: Nite, everyone! I need to go get some sleep.
OMNIChthon: LOL, Frank :)
BCS Frank: Bye, Deej! :)
OMNIChthon: Night, Dee. See you around.
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ZaphodB310: I must be going, too. Bye everyone!
OMNIChthon: Night, Zaph :)
BCS Frank: Chthon, do you include the Moties in that sampling?
Serrak: bye Zaphod, bye Zaphod
BCS Frank: Night, Zaphod! :)
Serrak: don't want either head to feel left out
OMNIChthon: No, they are certainly interesting to me, but that is relatively
old SF.
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OMNIChthon: LOL, Serrak!
BCS Frank: Fair enough.
OMNIChthon: And it is increasingly a minority vehicle in SF, at least, as far
as I can see.
Serrak: my wife is demanding that I inform you that the Turtledove sells
really well, and that...
BCS Frank: I was certainly disappointed by the aliens in Stargate.
Serrak: you should try it. I would suggest you listen, she is a BDalton
Store Manager after all.
OMNIChthon: Agreed, Frank - I just saw it Sunday, finally.
BCS Frank: My condolances, Chthon. :)
OMNIChthon: Serrak, when were Turtledove's stories written?
OMNIChthon: LOL! At least an anthropologist got to be the hero - is that a
first?
Serrak: She says the second book in the series came out about three months
ago
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OMNIChthon: Oops, meant archeologist.
OMNIChthon: Sujela, Hiya!
Sujela: hi
OMNIChthon: Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
Serrak: Advert Plug>> Just Ask Youre Local BDalton
OMNIChthon: **Tonight's topic is DOWN-TO-EARTH SF. Where have all the ETs
gone in SF?
BCS Frank: Archaeologist as hero goes back at least as far as Professor
Challenger and King Kong.
OMNIChthon: <grin>, Serrak
Serrak: so frank why didn't you like Stargate?
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BCS Frank: Serak, let me count the ways...
OMNIChthon: Ah, knew I could count on an interesting factoid from Frank :)
BCS Frank: plot, acting, waste of SF props, poor special effects...
Sujela: I didn't like Stargate either. Good premise-bad story.
BCS Frank: ... even the sand scenes are not up to, say, Lawrence of
Arabia.
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OMNIChthon: Not to mention the error in spatial geometry :)
Serrak: error?
OMNIChthon: RLangel, Greetings! Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
OMNIChthon: ***Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
OMNIChthon: They said they needed 7 points to define a trip - 6 for the
destination and 1 for the...
OMNIChthon: origin. Why not 6 for the origin, too?
RLangel: Did they ever arrive??
Sujela: goodnite
OMNIChthon: Yup :) And they went home, too
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BCS Frank: "Where have all the ET's gone... long time ago...."
OMNIChthon: Night, Sujela.
Serrak: ah, I see......
OMNIChthon: Actually, that was rattling round my head when I wrote the teaser
:)
BCS Frank: Can see why....
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Serrak: actualy I think the error is that you need 6 points to define the
Spatial location of the
Serrak: destination.
BCS Frank: I think it's hard now to write a solid SF alien that isn't up
OMNIChthon: Maybe real life has enough scary stuff in it to use as metaphors
- don't need aliens ...
OMNIChthon: to provide that function anymore.
BCS Frank: against the super-comic feature creatures of SF movies.
Serrak: since you are at the source, you only need the one point, since you
Know WERE..
Serrak: YOU ARE
OMNIChthon: That does seem like reduntant info, doesn't it, Serrak :)
BCS Frank: Serrak, if we granted that point o the makers of Star Gate, that's
about the only point they'd get.
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OMNIChthon: UTAB, HIya!
Serrak: LOL
OMNIChthon: Greetings, Earthling! Tonight's topic is ETs IN SF.
Serrak: Why am I trying to defend Stargate?
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Serrak: ???
Serrak: And now for something completely different
BCS Frank: Hey, if you can find value in that sandboiler, that's real
prospecting.
OMNIChthon: And SPECIES seems almost like DISCLOSURE in alien's clothes,
though, perhaps, ..
Serrak: It seems to me that most movie makers are interested in the
Cyberpunk..
Serrak: genere right now more than anything else
OMNIChthon: it is also a cautionary tale for genetic engineering.
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BCS Frank: Hmmm... would that pit Species against the Eubola movies then?
OMNIChthon: JUDGE DREDD is a perfect vehicle for Stallone, though.
OMNIChthon: Hiya, JSCARCI :)
OMNIChthon: Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat.
JSCARCI: howdy
Serrak: JUDGE DREDD was cool
OMNIChthon: **Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
BCS Frank: The SF movie that I most recently liked was....
OMNIChthon: We've noticed that a lot of the most recent SF has no aliens in
it.
Serrak: I say that from the point of view of someone who's been collecting
the comics from day one
BCS Frank: ... Apollo 13.
OMNIChthon: Frank, we were spectulating earlier that the demise of the space
program might ...
Serrak: Anyone here see a movie called "Moon Trap"?
BCS Frank: I know that Apollo 13 wasn't supposed to be SF...
OMNIChthon: be responsible in part for the diminishing number of aliens in
SF. Maybe, if A13 ...
BCS Frank: ... but it turns out that today traveling to the Moon -is- SF, or
special effects.
OMNIChthon: rekindles a national interest in space, there might be aliens
again. Remember - ...
OMNIChthon: you saw this prediction here first !! };>
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OMNIChthon: Serrak, no I haven't seen that one.
BCS Frank: I hope so Chthon....
BCS Frank: .... the reverse is true too....
BCS Frank: .... if we meet real aliens that'll spark interest in our space
program. :)
Serrak: someone should make a movie based off of H Harrisons "bill the
galactic hero" series
OMNIChthon: To be sure, Frank :)
Serrak: if you remember from the book "footfall" the goverment retained all
the SF writers they..
BCS Frank: I'd like to see Steel Beach... lots of aliens all offstage.
Serrak: could get there hands on to help them deal with the aliens.
OMNIChthon: Serrak, I'm not familiar with that one. BTW, does your wife know
if the Turtledove books ..
OMNIChthon: sell well?
Serrak: maybe we should put the SF writers in charge of the Space program.
Serrak: Cht, yes the books sell very well
OMNIChthon: No, I didn't know that about FOOTFALL, Serak! I'll have to read
it. It sounds interesting. :
BCS Frank: If you like that you'll love Fallen Angel by Pournelle.
Serrak: My favorite line from the book is "Shep just big gray peanut loving
doggie"...
OMNIChthon: I haven't read any Pournelle where he was the sole author, Frank.
BCS Frank: There the astronaughts are rescued by the underground science
fiction fan movement.
Serrak: yes, thats right, now you'll have to live with the suspence till you
read the book.
OMNIChthon: Hmmm. Peanuts.
BCS Frank: Think he had a co-arthur on that but not sure.
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OMNIChthon: OwlRider, Greetings, Earthling! Tonight's topic is ETs IN SF.
OMNIChthon: We are wondering why recent SF ...
Serrak: Footfall was co-writen, Pournelle and Niven
BCS Frank: Pournelle's sole stuff very readable, builds co-dominium
background for the Motie books.
OMNIChthon: seems to lack aliens.
OwlRider: Hi, sorry I'm late, did I miss the party?
OMNIChthon: No. It's just a slow night, Owl :)
Serrak: no, but you get the bar bill
OMNIChthon: We were waiting for you };>
OMNIChthon: LOL, Serrak !
OwlRider: I'm Here!
OMNIChthon: That seems to happen to me a lot!
Serrak: yeh
OwlRider: But my visa is rubber...
OMNIChthon: We've speculated that it might be due to the diminished space
program, to being bored with .
BCS Frank: What kind of aliens would we -like- to see?
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Serrak: that's ok, toon town bank likes rubber credit.
OMNIChthon: aliens, and to down-to-earth metaphors for aliens.
OMNIChthon: Ugghh, Hiya!
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OMNIChthon: *Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
OMNIChthon: CadaverRot (shudder), Hiya!
CadaverRot: home?
OMNIChthon: }:>
CadaverRot: What does that mean?
OMNIChthon: Ughh and CadaverRot, ** Tonight's topic is ETs IN SCIENCE FICTION
- where have they gone?
OMNIChthon: That's an emoticon - if you ...
Ugghh: I don't know
Serrak: we need anohter classic like the Martian Chonicles.
Serrak: ht = th
OMNIChthon: tilt your head to the left and look at it sideways, it is a
winking devil.
BCS Frank: Seeing how well we're doing in getting along with fellow humans
in, say, Serbia, we may not be
BCS Frank: ready for aliens.
Serrak: lol
OMNIChthon: In many ways, though, Serrak, MC was more about humans than
aliens.
CadaverRot: Oh Ok. Sorry
Serrak: yeh ok
OMNIChthon: No problem. You can find a list of such things at the keyword
SHORTCUTS, Cadaver :)
Ugghh: I think everybody got bored with aliens
Ugghh: they were over used
OwlRider: I personally like the most unhuman ones. I noticed you were
discussing Footfall when I came in.
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Serrak: yeh, Chthon hasnt read it yet
OMNIChthon: Weedeater9, Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat.
OwlRider: I also liked the Man-Kinz War series and Card's Speaker For The
Dead series
CadaverRot: I just finished watching the movie ST Generations, it sucked.
Weedeater9: Thank you
OMNIChthon: Weed, Tonight's topic is ETs IN SF - where have they all gone.
BCS Frank: Yes, though even there, the latest Kzin war book seems to focus
more on humans... best of series
Ugghh: Speaker for the Dead, was one of those books Ender's Game?
BCS Frank: though.
Serrak: Cht, are you familiar with a book called "Barlowe's guide to
Extraterrestrials"?
CadaverRot: <------------- Speaker to Animals.... Hiya all !!!!!!!!!!
};>
OMNIChthon: Hasn't the interval between the Man-Kzin War series been getting
longer, Frank?
OwlRider: Do you think it's the reader's or the writer's who have gotten
bored with ET's?
Ugghh: That was a cool book
OMNIChthon: No, I'm not, Serrak.
Ugghh: The drawings were really good
Serrak: wife says thats because there are different writers for the story
(re:man-kzin wars)
OwlRider: Yes, Ugghh, Ender's Game is 1st? in series.
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BCS Frank: Chthon, not sure... may be getting hard to find new "space" in
that series.
OMNIChthon: That's an interesting question, Owl. It speaks to the issue of
how SF is driven - ...
Serrak: cht, it gives a pretty good overview of some of the classic aliens in
the history of SF
OMNIChthon: by the readers or the writers or both.
CadaverRot: Niven created the Kzin for his known space series.
BCS Frank: Agree Serrak.
OwlRider: I agree with Frank on Man-Kinz
OMNIChthon: GMTA, it seems :)
BCS Frank: Niven said he didn't really want to do war stories so he skipped
over the wars.
OwlRider: : )
BCS Frank: That opened a niche of course.
Serrak: cht, wife says its driven by the readers.
CadaverRot: Foot Fall was not a war storie?
OMNIChthon: I'll have to get that book, Serrak. And I also want a CD version
of an SF reference book.
BCS Frank: Ahhh, that makes me an SF driver, then. :)
OwlRider: LOL Frank
CadaverRot: Or The Mote In God's Eye...the Gripping Hand?
Serrak: Footfall was about the Earth getting its BUTT KICKED by invading
aliens.
OMNIChthon: Serrak, I mentioned the increasing time between M-K wars books as
indicitive of ...
CadaverRot: A war storie !!
BCS Frank: Chthon, I've heard very good things about Star Trek the Technical
Manual CD-ROM.
OMNIChthon: a topic being exhausted. Does this seem to be the case, do you
think?
Ugghh: Cadaver, story is spelled like this
OMNIChthon: Frank, I was looking for a kind of all-encompassing bibliography.
I've read that Sony ..
OMNIChthon: has one in the works.
Serrak: wife says its because the series has changed authors and publishers 3
times, however,...
Serrak: the demand is still there for the series
BCS Frank: Ug, spelling online is by all rights a matter of personal style
and whim. :)
Ugghh: oh
CadaverRot: Oath of Fealty....The Legacy of Herot were not War Stories?
Serrak: ug, how is it that a cave man knows english so well??
OMNIChthon: Cadaver, just scrolled back to your reference on the Motie
stories - they don't write 'em...
BCS Frank: Oath of Fealty wasn't a war story.
OMNIChthon: like that anymore, it seems. The Moties were certainly among the
most interesting ...
BCS Frank: Legacy was a co-authored book.
OMNIChthon: alien ideas in recent memory, IMHO :)
CadaverRot: Sure was much violence for not a war story.
Serrak: IMHO??
OMNIChthon: I was mentioning earlier that David Brin is coming out with
another of his Uplift novels...
OMNIChthon: later this summer.
CadaverRot: Most of Nivens books deal with violence and war.
Serrak: In Mighty Hot Oscillator?
OMNIChthon: In My Humble Opinion :)
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BCS Frank: The Mote was written by Pournelle and Niven.. their best work,
then heavily proofed by Heinlein...
OMNIChthon: CPenrod, Hiya! Tonight's topic is ETs IN SF.
BCS Frank: ... ther'll never be a book like that again.
OMNIChthon: Where have they all gone is the focus of the chat.
OwlRider: I miss Heinlein
CadaverRot: Gripping Hand
BCS Frank: Amen, Owl.
OMNIChthon: Heinlein was never very big on aliens, PUPPETMASTERS not
withstanding.
OMNIChthon: Well, at least they never played prominent roles.
Serrak: wife says that the Genre is being inundated with FEMALE writers and
that...
Serrak: they write Fantasy, not SF
BCS Frank: Hmmm... Heinlein aliens include the hive creatures in Methusela,
the alien that raised human pets,
CadaverRot: A SF novel without a good War going on never makes the top ten.
BCS Frank: the Mother Thing....
OMNIChthon: Although UK Le Guinn's aliens were humanoid in THE LEFT HAND OF
DARKNESS, she used ..
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BCS Frank: And the insect characters in Starship Trooper.
Serrak: Starship Trooper was cool
CadaverRot: Bisexual to the max OC....
OMNIChthon: them as a perfect feminist metaphor. This is an important use of
aliens in SF, I think.
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OMNIChthon: Quasar, Hiya!
OwlRider: Could the wave of pop psycology and our urge for introspection be n
underlying cause? We want to look
CadaverRot: Starship Troopers was Great !!!!! Get 'em Rico !!!!!!!
OMNIChthon: Welcome to the OMNI SF/Fantasy Chat! :D
Quasar6: Hey, room!
OwlRider: within rather than without
OMNIChthon: ***Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE.
BCS Frank: She wrote LEFT in part just to use the line "The King is
pregnant." By the way,
Serrak: agh, Bugs, ZILLIONS OF 'EM
OMNIChthon: (long time passin ~\o)
BCS Frank: in LEFT, all the aliens are human.
Ugghh: Hey, I've got an ET in my bedroom
BCS Frank: Just different humans.
Quasar6: Are you married to it, Ugghh?
Ugghh: his name is Henry
CadaverRot: And all these novels had a major war going on.
OMNIChthon: Owl, I was thinking that was a big part of it, too.
OwlRider: We are more interested in how WE will react to the Future than
others we may encounter.
CadaverRot: Can anyone name a major SF or F book without a War?? Just
curious.
OMNIChthon: The movie SPECIES has a funny feminist angle to it - the critter
was bioengineered to ..
Serrak: define WAR
BCS Frank: Rendevous with Rama....
BCS Frank: 2001....
OMNIChthon: be female because "they are easier to control, and more docile."
OMNIChthon: Owl, I agred.
BCS Frank: The Man Who Sold the Moon....
OMNIChthon: oops, agree.
BCS Frank: Farenheit 451.....
CadaverRot: Keep going BCS.
Serrak: Neuromancer
BCS Frank: The Caves of Steel.....
Ugghh: Rama Reavled had the best aliens
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Serrak: reavled?
Ugghh: They were very realistic
BCS Frank: I Robot, The Naked Sun...
OMNIChthon: LUCIFER'S HAMMER
Serrak: good one
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OwlRider: Maybe we're sticking our heads in the sand, as more people openly
discuss UFO's and abductions, it's
Ugghh: Oh, is I, Robot a good book?
OMNIChthon: THE EINSTEIN INTERSECTION
OwlRider: becoming too Real to think about Aliens
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CadaverRot: Lucifers Hammer was very violent..Faction against faction.
Serrak: ha, Ugghh make good joke
OMNIChthon: Kelleybee, Hiya!
BCS Frank: Many SF stories have conflict that reaches war-like
proportions..... like Number of the Beast...
Kelleybee: hi
OMNIChthon: ***Tonight we are exploring WHERE HAVE ALL THE ETs GONE. There
seems to be ..
OMNIChthon: a lack of ETs in the most recent SF.
Serrak: what about the BERSERKER Series?
Ugghh: I'm telling you man there under my bed
OMNIChthon: We are discussing why this might be so.
CadaverRot: We killed 'em all off OC... };>
OMNIChthon: How many heads has it got, Ugghh?
BCS Frank: I Robot by Asimov is a major seminal SF work, and the screen play
is a very good book too.
Quasar6: Ugghh...when was your last Prozac?
OMNIChthon: Screen play, Frank?
Ugghh: I'm only 13 man
OwlRider: I had heard roumors there was a movie being discussed for I, Robot
BCS Frank: Yup, the screen play by Harlie Ellison for the never made movie I,
Robot.
Serrak: ugghh, how do you get 13 men on the computer at the same time?
Ugghh: Shocker, huh you thought I was older
OwlRider: rumors, oops
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OMNIChthon: (Scrolling back) That's true about Lucifer's Hammer, Cadaver.
Quasar6: Oh, Serrak...you are tooo funny!!
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BCS Frank: I obot has been almost continuously under movie contract, but
always too difficult to make.
OwlRider: LOL Serrak... Very Carefully
CadaverRot: 2010 had a crisis between the soviets and the americans if I
remember correctly.
BCS Frank: I Robot ^^^^
Ugghh: Barely a crisis Cad
OMNIChthon: Maybe its time has come, at least in terms of the special
effects, Frank.
OMNIChthon: But will it draw `em into the theater? I wonder if the poor
showings of THE PUPPETMASTERS
BCS Frank: Terminator, etc., has shown that.
OMNIChthon: might not make the moviemakers shy.
Quasar6: I don't know about "I, robot" as a movie. Hollywood would probably
figure a way to put Mel Gibson init
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OMNIChthon: But the Terminator flicks have passed I ROBOT by, haven't theyu?
Shadowjakk: Hi! :)
CadaverRot: Barelyy a crises ...that's what you call the threat of nuclear
war.
OMNIChthon: Hiya, Shadowjakk :)
Serrak: hi shadow
OwlRider: The promo's for PuppetMasters didn't draw me in.
Ugghh: There was no nuclear war
Shadowjakk: Hi Chthon, Serrak! :)
Ugghh: I don't think at least
BCS Frank: Well, butchering a Heinlein script to make a "name writer" movie
doesn't sound smart to me.
OMNIChthon: Tonight's topic is ETs IN SF - where have they all gone?
Ugghh: We'll probably never know
Shadowjakk: They weren't wanted. I guess they all went off in a snit.
CadaverRot: Out of the top ten SF movies of all time...which ones were SF War
movies?
OMNIChthon: :)
Serrak: they're in Ugghh's closet
BCS Frank: The I Robot movie as scripted by Ellison, was about te strange
life and loves of
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Ugghh: You got that right
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BCS Frank: Susan Calvin, robopsychiatrist.
Ugghh: I love my aliens
Quasar6: Jason, it's time for you to go to bed!
CadaverRot: ET and Starman were not.
BCS Frank: Dr. Strangelove, On the Beach, The Shape of Things to Come.
OMNIChthon: There has been a flick about a robot - android, actually - lover.
Shadowjakk: I have noticed that SF is getting more humanocentric, though.
OMNIChthon: STAR WARS, of course.
OMNIChthon: That's the focus of the chat, Shad! GMTA :)
Quasar6: Please know, Jason, I am kidding....just giving you a hard time...
OwlRider: ?flick
Serrak: GMTA???
Ugghh: Katherine, you're really old
Serrak: Got More Toenails Actually?
Shadowjakk: Books at least. TV is full of aliens.
OwlRider: Great Minds Think Alike
Quasar6: Yes, my man, and wise, to boot!
CadaverRot: ET and Starman are the only ones that I think were not. Outside
of government interference.
BCS Frank: Hasn't SF always been about human, under everything else?
OMNIChthon: Great Minds Think Alike.
OMNIChthon: Thanks, Owl :)
Serrak: apparently not, look at me
Ugghh: I don't want to look at you
OwlRider: LOL Serrak
OMNIChthon: True, Frank - maybe we have scary things right here on earth that
can serve as metaphors.
Shadowjakk: I guess aliens figure thare's more money in TV and they're
abandoning literature.
OwlRider: But you do type fast on your fingers...
Ugghh: Yeah, our culture is degrading
CadaverRot: There are no more ET's OC because we can't think of new ways to
kill them. IMHO
Ugghh: LOL
Serrak: maybe the aliens who are currently living here are keeping "Aliens"
out of literature....
BCS Frank: Culture is always breakig down.. but a new culture is always
rising from the ruins.
Serrak: RE: They Live
OwlRider: Or, we don't think we have a chance of winning!
OwlRider: If you don't look you can't see.
Ugghh: Not always a good culture, though Frank
OwlRider: The psycho downthe street is more frightening.
BCS Frank: That fits with Steel Beach....
BCS Frank: True, Ug, for "good" you have to pay extra. :)
OMNIChthon: What was the last book anybody remembers reading that had
interesting aliens in it? Harry ..
Ugghh: Hey, how much you think the first issue of Omni is?
OMNIChthon: Turtledoves' books were mentioned.
Ugghh: Rama Reavled
OMNIChthon: The Eagle or the spider, Ugghh?
Ugghh: octospiders
Ugghh: were cool
Shadowjakk: I read a book called IN THE CUBE with very good aliens. It was
about a future Boston.
BCS Frank: Maybe the Dragons on Pern, but they've been around and are only
semi-alien.
Shadowjakk: That was fairly recent.
Serrak: wife says book about giant ants called "ARMOR"
BCS Frank: Cube was, hmm, interesting, but I felt it was forced somehow....
Serrak: an older book
CadaverRot: Legacy of Herot...the Grendels were bad a$$.
Ugghh: I think the best movie (even though it was corny) about aliens was
Official Denial
BCS Frank: ... the aliens didn't seem to have organic identities....
OMNIChthon: It seems that most - if not all - of such books are continuations
of series, doesn't it?
Shadowjakk: I thought the aliens were well done. I don't live in Boston,
though, Frank. :)
Serrak: I've been reading mostly fantasy lately, mainly cause there hasnt
been any good SF
CadaverRot: Or the Puppeteers in ringworld.
BCS Frank: To really develop a good alien species you kind of need a series.
Serrak: all hail the HINDMOST
Ugghh: Serrak have you read Gold?
Serrak: nope
OMNIChthon: Maybe this fall from favor is one reason ST:Voyager is such a
yawner.
OwlRider: I read a story in Asimov years back that had whale like creatures
that were top of rung. They had
Serrak: who wrote it
Ugghh: Isaac Asimov
OwlRider: tentacles and were plotting booting humas off planet.
Serrak: i'll look into it
Ugghh: It was his last book
Ugghh: and was very fun to read
OwlRider: I can't remember Serrak.. :<. If I find it I'll e-mail...
CadaverRot: The BORG !!!!! I love em...but that's TV.
Serrak: was it done in cave painting style?
BCS Frank: Asimov's last book was Nemisis, perhaps?
OMNIChthon: I love the Vorlon on Babylon 5 - wish we'd see more of it.
CadaverRot: The Vorlon are cool too !!!
Serrak: wife says Ug correct, last published book is GOLD
Ugghh: The only good stuff on TV anymore is The Twilight Zone
Shadowjakk: It's pretty strange that I'm looking through the last coupla
dozen SF books I've read and none of them
Shadowjakk: *featured* aliens.
OMNIChthon: Reruns, Ugghh?
Ugghh: yeah
Ugghh: but they're great
OMNIChthon: That's what I thought, Shadow.
BCS Frank: How about the aliens, including the porpoises, in the Hitchhikers'
series?
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OwlRider: Have you seen Showtime's Outer Limits?
Ugghh: I mean they have such great plots
Ugghh: I don't have Showtime
CadaverRot: Or the mice BCS?
OMNIChthon: Don't get that cable channel, Owl.
BCS Frank: Yup, Cadaver.
Serrak: the mice were evil
OwlRider: They've done a good job of modernizing (sp?) the format. All new
stories and great effects.
CadaverRot: EVIL !!!!....not Pinky and the Brain...NEVER !!!!
BCS Frank: This may not be a time for "grand mesages," hence less need for
"alien" points of view.
Ugghh: Pinky and the Brain rule
Ugghh: They're Pinky and the Brain
OwlRider: Good Point Frank.
Serrak: The Brain only thinks he rules,
Ugghh: Pinky and the Brain one is a genius the other is insane
Shadowjakk: Of course, the more recent books that I've read have all dealt
realistically...
OwlRider: Too many not so grand realities...
OMNIChthon: But there are still big messages - but they have to do with how
people can screw things up.
Shadowjakk: with man's limitations in terms of space, also.
Shadowjakk: There aren't as many novels in which man flits around the
universe lately.
OwlRider: Our disappointment at limiting ourselves, we can't afford to think
what's out there?
Shadowjakk: We've sorta hauled in our borders.
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BCS Frank: I do have a yearning for a cold fusion powered FTL drive space
ship discovering an alien trading post
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Ugghh: You can't do that
Ugghh: it's impossible to go faster than light
Ugghh: don
Serrak: prove it
Ugghh: 't
BCS Frank: from the Galactic Empire & Sports League on an L-5 location in
Martian orbit.
Ugghh: you know anything about physics
Ugghh: ?
BCS Frank: Ug, I know, 98 thousand miles per second isn't just a good idea...
BCS Frank: ... it's the law.
Serrak: all we need is to get rid of the curret math, and replace it with
real science
OMNIChthon: But Ugghh, you don't have to pay attention to the law in SF -
that's its main attraction.
CadaverRot: We have a 13 yr old Princeton professor in our midst.
BCS Frank: But I'd like to see that law retired, along with the sound
barrier.
Ugghh: but science fiction should have some science in it
OMNIChthon: David
CadaverRot: the only laws I know of are the ones the IRS enforce.
OMNIChthon: oops, David Brin has actually written an essay along the lines of
tonight's topic...
Ugghh: ha ha
Ugghh: really funny
BCS Frank: Actully what SF shoul have is not so much plain science as a
scientific approach and philosophy.
OwlRider: Where's essay Chthon?
OMNIChthon: It is called THE DOGMA OF OTHERNESS. In the context of tonight's
topic, what Brin ...
Shadowjakk: Really...Brin has ued lots of aliens.
Serrak: NEWS FLASH>> (yet another plug for BDalton)
BCS Frank: Thus Heinlein's Magic, Inc. was hard SF about an alternate Earth
where magic really worked,
OMNIChthon: says is that aliens provide us with a metaphor for what scares
us.
CadaverRot: Like in Spieces? Should we split the GENE ?
BCS Frank: and how we would apply engineering and scientific know-how to
magic.
Serrak: there's a series out by Gregory Benford
OMNIChthon: Owl, it's in a collection of short stories called OTHERNESS :)
OwlRider: Thanks Chton :)
Shadowjakk: I don't know that I agree with that totally in regards to SF.
OMNIChthon: But now we have global warming, Ebola, AIDS and other yucky stuff
to fill this role.
OwlRider: oops, sorry I stumbled your name :< Chthon
Serrak: series is called "Galactic Center", we're here looking at them now,
they seem to have..
Shadowjakk: I think that Aliens provide the other half of the dialectic.
CadaverRot: It seems that much of present day SF is attmpting to explain our
origins and.....
Serrak: aliens and other cool stuff in them, including war stuff
CadaverRot: ....and the moralities of gene splicing....
Ugghh: I think I'll be going to bed now
Ugghh: have fun with your little conversation
OMNIChthon: Night, Ughh. See you around :)
Ugghh: good night
Serrak: night ugghh
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OwlRider: But, OTOH, we've always had bad stuff. T
CadaverRot: nite ugggh
Serrak: have another bone
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OwlRider: Good Night Ugghh, Sweet dreams, :*
Serrak: cht, have you heard of the afore mentioned Benford?
Serrak: series???
CadaverRot: brb
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OMNIChthon: Not the series, no I haven't. I've got TIMESCAPE near the top of
my TO READ stack.though.
Serrak: the first book in the series is called "in the ocean of night"
OwlRider: I haven't heard of them at all, who's author?
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Shadowjakk: Ouch!
OMNIChthon: re-hi, Shad :)
BCS Frank: I'll take a look for that series.
Serrak: Gregory Benford
Serrak: ouch???
OMNIChthon: <=== Uploading punt pillows to Shad
OMNIChthon: He was punted.
Shadowjakk: I hit hard that time. :::rubbing backside::::
Serrak: did he make a field goal??
OMNIChthon: It's interesting to me when a preeminent "hard-SF" writer like
Benford includes aliens in ..
OMNIChthon: his stories. But I'm not aware of any that he does. Does he in
the GALACTIC CENTER series?
Shadowjakk: I think most eminent writers have played with aliens...unless
they're exclusively CP.
OMNIChthon: CP?
Shadowjakk: Cyberpunk.
Serrak: that's what it says on the back of the books, havent read them yet
BCS Frank: Hmmm... quite few hard SF writers have used aliens, including
Foreward, Niven, Pournelle,
OMNIChthon: Ah!
BCS Frank: Varley, Heinlein...
Serrak: theyre on my too read stack
OMNIChthon: So, there's a new niche - alien cyberpunk!
OMNIChthon: Asimov, perhaps, Frank?
BCS Frank: One of the very strange things about Asimov's Foundation trilogy
was that it had -no- aliens,
Shadowjakk: LOL...it exists. Patricia Anthony's BROTHER TERMITE falls into
that category! :)
BCS Frank: even after the human species had spread throughout the Galaxy.
OwlRider: Asimov didn't believe in Aliens or UFOs, IMHO
Serrak: the Foundation series didnt need aliens, the humans fought amongst
themselves very well
BCS Frank: That was the deliberate imposition of a "humans only" viewpoint of
editor
BCS Frank: John Campbell.
OMNIChthon: Hmm, actually, Asimov had very few aliens, now that I think about
it. His aliens were mostly
OMNIChthon: mutants who got that way from radioactivity.
OwlRider: Right, though still derived from humans
Shadowjakk: Asimov is very much the exception, though.
BCS Frank: Asimov had no problem writing about aliens, cf "The Gods
Themselves," for one example.
OwlRider: ?
Shadowjakk: He rarely used them in a time when aliens were all the rage.
BCS Frank: He also had martians, venusians, Jovians, all quite non-human.
BCS Frank: Right, Asimov felt less need than many to use aliens.
BCS Frank: But it was not a limitation, it was a choice in his case.
OwlRider: I need to re-read the Good Doctor...
OMNIChthon: His aliens were almost satirical, the ones I can remember.
BCS Frank: Asimov was always close to the Satirical, even in his factual
reporting.
BCS Frank: For Isaac humor is one of the major unifyin senses.
BCS Frank: unifying ^^^
BCS Frank: And of course he firmly believed that the limmerick is an art
form. :)
Shadowjakk: A dubious virtue. :)
Serrak: how about DUNE?
Serrak: agh big space anomalie freeze frame
BCS Frank: He carried it off far better than many others. :)
OwlRider: Well gang, I've got to go. And just when the subject is one of my
favorite authors of all time.
Shadowjakk: True. :)
OMNIChthon: Night, Owl :)
OwlRider: Good night all!
OMNIChthon: See you around.
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BCS Frank: Owl, I truly suspect the Good Doctor will return, topic-wise. :)
BCS Frank: Bye Owl! :)
Shadowjakk: Nite Owl! :)
Serrak: nighty night owl, hoot
OMNIChthon: BTW, I'd like to alert all of you to a spate of password trollers
on AOL. Remember,
Serrak: spate??
OMNIChthon: no legitimate AOL staffer will *ever* ask you for your password.
BCS Frank: Chthon, I've been hearing of both password and credit card data
trollers.....
OMNIChthon: spate = rash, an outbreak.
Serrak: ok then not being an AOL staffer, I
OMNIChthon: Ughh, Frank (sorry, ugghh };>)
Shadowjakk: or Spam/Plate a new form of semi-edible dinnerware.
Serrak: ??????
BCS Frank: T'ain't pretty.
Serrak: spam
OMNIChthon: LOL, Shadow!
Serrak: Albatross
Serrak: ALBATROSS!
OMNIChthon: Albacore?
Serrak: what flavor is it?
BCS Frank: If anyone comes across such a low creature as a troller, please
cut and paste the exact text
BCS Frank: and report it, to keyword GUIDE PAGER.
OMNIChthon: That's GUIDEPAGER, Frank :) No space.
BCS Frank: They both work. :)
OMNIChthon: But, wise words they be.
Shadowjakk: Flavored spam? The concept of Spam with *any* flavor is anathema
to its producers
Serrak: I'll take two, then
OMNIChthon: Ah! Good to know that :)
Serrak: the wife is beating me over the head with a small furry animal and
telling me that
OMNIChthon: Well, it's time for this OMNIoid to boogie. Thanks for a great
chat.
BCS Frank: :::: digging out old carton of anti-spam ::::
Serrak: I have to quit playing in cyberspace for the night, so therefor
OMNIChthon: Feel free to stay and chat, and if you need any help, please use
Keyword: GUIDEPAGER
OMNIChthon: It was fun, Serrak :) See you around, I hope :)
Serrak: i'll bid you all a fondu fair well...
OMNIChthon: Night, all :)
Serrak: definately.
BCS Frank: Night Chthon, y'all! :)
Shadowjakk: Thanks, Chton! Great chat. See y'all! :)
